____________ July 10, 2016 ___________

Finding my Place Part 5 of 5 Prophecy Posts

This is where everything becomes a giant, disastrous MESS.   Up until now trumpets were in order, news articles matched up, it made sense.  Now?  I’m all the heck a disaster, which is why this one isn’t in a row with the others.  I needed time to do more looking, to figure it out, to… hope something made sense.

The best way to start out is with what does make sense.  So here’s our timeline, thus far:

2007a: : ENPI begins judgments
2007b: Seal One: White Horse (unseen in Heaven)
2008a: Seal Two: Red Horse (Russian Reunification)
2008b: Seal Three: Black Horse (economic collapse)
2009a: Seal Four: Pale Horse (pandemics begin)
2009b: Seal Five: Martyrs at altar (unseen in Heaven)
2010a: Seal Six: Cataclysm (Terra events on a grand scale)
2010b: Seal Seven: Silence 1/2hr/angels receive gifts (unseen in Heaven)
2011a: Censer cast to earth/quake (Honshu Japan/Fukushima)
2011b: Angels prepare to sound (unseen in Heaven)
2012a: Trump 1: 1/3 vegetation burned (Russia/Canada/US massive fires)
2012b: Trump 2: 1/3 sea life killed/seawater corrupted (radiation in Pacific)
2013a: Trump 3: 1/3 freshwater ‘made bitter’ (polar freshwater/ice melts)
2013b: Trump 4: 1/3 sun, moon, and stars darkened (Nibiru approach)
2014: Angel declaring the start of the three ‘woes’
………….
Israel surrounded on all sides, “alone” per Obama
………….Abomination of Desolation in the holy place
2014b: Trump 5/Woe #1: ‘Locust Army’ (ISIS)
2015aTrump 6/Woe #2: Army of 200,000,000 (refugee crisis)
2015b:
2016a:

And here’s where I admit that I’m lost again.  It’s really not my fault.  Scripture can be seriously confusing, after all.  And what happens next is a series of events between Trump 6 and Trump 7.

Since I’m not into pasting whole chapters of scripture into my blog, can I just sum this whole thing up?  The next thing that happens in scripture is that an angel comes down with a little book, puts one foot on the sea (Gentile world) and one on the earth (Israel), and shouts. From what I’ve read, many commentaries state that this is Messiah, because there is a rainbow around His head, He is the only one in Revelation who has been referred to as ‘Mighty’, and has a voice like the ‘roar of a Lion’.  It could be.  I wouldn’t be surprised.  Personally?  I don’t know.  Helpful, right?

In response to H/his ‘roar’ or shout, seven thunders sound, but we’re not allowed to know what each thunder is.  This is bad.  First, because each of the judgments in Revelations is ‘seven’ things.  Seven seals.  Seven trumpets.  Seven vials.  Now we have seven thunders, but we’re not allowed to know what they are.  Are they another set of judgments?  I sincerely hope not, because that would severely suck.  I don’t believe they are, because Messiah says that ‘for the sake of the elect, the time is cut short’.  He says this in Matthew 24:22, just after saying the ‘when you see Israel surrounded’ bit.  So it’s timed right at this point in the Revelation timeline.  So maybe this shutting up of the thunders is that being fulfilled – stuff we could’ve had to have gone thru, but won’t?  It’s a guess.

Then the angel (back to Revelation) lifts a hand, and declares that there will be ‘time no longer’ and that at the sounding of the seventh trumpet, the ‘mystery’ foretold by the prophets would be ‘finished’.

Let’s look at the first part, a minute:  ‘Time no Longer’ can either affirm what I just guessed about ‘time being cut short’, or… well, it could mean the world is about to a new and terrifying phase.  I don’t believe that it’s the end of keeping time, per se, because we have yet to have Israel ‘downtrodden’ for 3.5 years, two witnesses for 3.5 years, or drought for 3.5 years.  So there’s obviously still time.  I’m sticking with my theory that it’s affirming Christ’s ‘time cut short’ from His Olivet Timeline.

But the sounding of Trumpet #7 is something big and important.  It’s going to be awesome, if this being is saying as much, ahead of time!  The problem is getting there.  Because every time we’ve had an angelic activity, it’s taken up space on our timeline… except the interim chapter 7.   With this instance we’re seeing SO MUCH, I don’t know how to translate it into the timeline.  And we’re not even done yet!

Back to the action: the Angel/Messiah gives John the little book, and John is told to eat it.  ?!?!?!   It tastes sweet, but gives him a bellyache.  And while he’s dealing with that, he’s given a ruler and told to measure the Temple of God – but not the outer court, because it’s to be ‘downtrodden’ for 3.5 years.  The problem here is that there is no temple of God on Earth.  It was destroyed in 70AD.  So is this in Heaven?  Yeshua said that there would be no temple, anymore – because the temple now resides within the Believers.  So this temple thing has to be symbolic, obviously.

Meanwhile, we move over and get to meet the two prophets that will come to earth for 3.5 years and roast people with fire from their mouths, bring a 3.5 year drought over Israel, and then die, start rotting, and then rise from the dead on global video. We won’t argue if it’s Enoch and Elijah, or Moses and Elijah, right now – it doesn’t matter, at this point.

The problem is timing.  When does all of this happen?  What is parenthetical? What is chronological?  I don’t know.  It should be my mantra:  I have no idea!  ((<< Frustrating!!))

The first thing I tend to do is go back and look for precedence… because if you remember, we had six seals, then [SOME THINGS] for a whole chapter, and then after that insertion, then came seal seven.  Right?  Well, this is the same thing: six trumpets, then [SOME THINGS] for a chapter and a half, and then comes trumpet seven.  So how did that play out, last time?

Between seals 6 & 7 there were several things:

1. Angels hold back winds

2. East Angel & magnetosphere
3. Saints Sealed
4. Robed Redeemed.

The first half are angel things, the second are things that affect people.  The first three things happened at the same time as the seals.  Israel isn’t ‘sealed’ completely until February 2011, per the Jewish Rabbis.  So number three was done by the end of the seals.  I’m still waiting on thing number four.  So how does that match up to the trumpet interim sections?

1. Angel with book/thunders
2. Angel with announcement/food (response to announcement?)
3. Temple measured/Israel downtrodden 3.5 years
4. Two Witnesses/drought for 3.5 years.

The first half are angel things, the second are things that affect people.  The first three are things happening at the same time as the trumpets.  (<< Actually, I was considering the Israel thing open war, but apparently not?  That’s conjecture, for you.)  Regardless, I’m still waiting on number four.

It’s. The. Same.  Isn’t it?  I mean, different events, but the set-up, the pattern is the same.  The play-out is the same.  That means that I don’t include them in the timeline, itself… like last time?  I don’t know, but it seems that way.

And then there’s trumpet #7 and the last woe, no?  And that isn’t until Revelation 11:14.  Here it is:

The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because Thou hast taken to thee Thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and Thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that Thou shouldest give reward unto Thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear Thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in His temple the ark of His testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.  Rev 11:14-19

Let’s take a moment to see that there are a series of events that happen here.  The judgment is multi-faceted.  And I can’t help but wonder if the same thing happened with seal seven.  Shall we take a look?

Seal #7:

  1. Silence in Heaven for half an hour/angels receive censer/trumpets
  2. Censer cast to Earth: voices/thunder/lightnings/quake
  3. Angels prepare to sound/start trump judgments

Trump #7:

  1. Praises in Heaven/Temple of Heaven opened
  2. Ark revealed: Lightning/voices/hail/earthquake
  3. Review of the history of Israel/Spiritual world to present (ch12)
  4. Review of the history of the Earth/princes/powers to present (ch13)
  5. Christ in the clouds, harvesting His own (ch14)

And then after that begins the vial judgments of chapter 15.  But as far as Trumpet 7… I see patterns/parallels to seal 7, but there are some major differences, too.  And I come away with more questions than I had before – how about you?!  First, is this ark and earthquake package visible here on earth?  Second, do the history reviews count as time?  (I’d almost say no.  That’s review, not present action, isn’t it?)  But in this praise session, they announce what’s happening, here:

  1.  The Great Trib/Final Wrath begins
  2. The Dead will rise
  3. the prophets (OT), saints (NT), and believers (today) will be given reward
  4. the actual destruction of the earth begins.

You know me.  This… could be my rapture!  And interestingly, as I was looking for a timeline chart of the trumpet judgments, I saw this graphic.  It’s confusing as shit, because the first item on it is a pre-Trib rapture, missing the Messiah.  But after the trumps, we have Christ in the clouds, and verse talking about saints receiving rewards and the dead rising.  ?!?!  So is this the rapture?  I’d be good with it, you know this.

It’s obviously stupid beyond words, taking things that are symbolic as literal… but looking closer, this is actually an illustration of a mid-trib rapture.  See, the seal judgments are the ‘Beginning of Sorrows’, not officially part of the Tribulation.  The trumpets are the Tribulation (or Wrath), and the vials are the great Tribulation.  A rapture before the seals is a ‘pre-Trib’ rapture.  A rapture before the trumpets is a ‘pre-Wrath’ rapture.  A rapture between the trumps and vials is a ‘mid-Trib rapture’… and of course us being here the whole thing is a ‘post-Trib’ rapture.  I keep bumping from one to the next, because I’d rather it be sooner than later.  But I’m an eternal optimist, so there’s that.

Back to my chart:

2014: Angel declaring the start of the three ‘woes’
………….Israel surrounded on all sides, “alone” per Obama
………….Abomination of Desolation in the holy place
2014b:
Trump 5/Woe #1:
‘Locust Army’ (ISIS)
2015a
:
  Trump 6/Woe #2: Army of 200,000,000 (refugee crisis)
2015b:  Trump 7/Woe #3a: Praises in Heaven
2016a: Trump 7/Woe #3b:  Quake/voices/thunderings/lightning/hail
2016b: Trump 7/Woe #3c:

In looking at all of this, I ended up at an old post – it was calling ‘The Summary of it all‘ [up thru the Seals], and it was written 2/8/2013.  I ended it by saying that there were four things that could happen next:  1) The pope dying, 2) the awakening of Sharon, 3) the destruction of Israel, or 4) the rapture of the saints.  Of those?  The pope retired 26 days after that post.  Sharon died a year later.  Israel certainly is under severe attack (both as a nation and a people)… so it’s down to just a rapture, at this point.

I’m not sure what’s up for this period of time that we’re in.  It could be the histories… or it could be Christ coming to reap.  I do know that the Jews are absolutely beside themselves on the blogs that I read – they believe this is the year that He’s going to appear.  It’s very exciting, reading their writings.  And from where I’m sitting… this fall might see Obama’s “millions of people disappearing”.  That’s called a rapture, people.

HOWEVER… I need to stress that everything we’ve seen up until now has been far ‘smaller’ than people expect.  Remember Mary, Joseph and a manger in Bethlehem?  Israel was expecting a conquering king, hosts of Romans being killed, destruction and massive events.  We’ve been in the midst of the Tribulation period, and nobody’s noticing any more than they did in Messiah’s time.  Don’t expect anyone to give credence to what happens next.  There are nearing 7.4 billion in the world.  Even if there were 9 million people raptured?  That’s only 0.12% of the world population.  It’s not going to be the way the ‘c’hurches tell you it will be.

Only the ones watching will even have a glimmer of an idea of what’s happening.  This blog is here to try to help answer questions.  I’ve had my share of questions, too.  And sometimes I have to wait a long time for Him to share the answers.  Why now?  Why is He revealing about the Trumps now?  Probably because there wasn’t evidence and sources before.  Maybe because I was in the way.  But I’m grateful beyond words to know, to see… even now.

And I’m excited about what’s to come.  Because no matter how bad it gets after this?
My team wins, in the end.  And I’m going to do all I can for Him (and my team).

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